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Stoned Nuts Rule, OK!

Wednesday, 17th August 2016

I know it is fashionable to sing the praises of the all-conquering tiger nut these days, but in my opinion - and good though tiger nuts are - I believe peanuts are better. However, I must point out one factor that I consider to be very important, though to be fair, other writers don't!
Back in the day peanuts had a pretty bad press, being blamed for fish deaths caused by vitamin E deficiency caused by too many anglers using too many peanuts. Indeed, I had the first-hand experience of the potential for peanuts to do harm on a lake I used to fish in the 80s. At the time while a close season for coarse fishing existed in most of the country, in my home county of Cornwall no such season existed. Consequently during the three-month shut down in the rest of the UK our local day ticket waters were invaded by hordes of carpers from outside the county.

At the time peanuts were the most popular bait among the carp angling fraternity. Sadly their very popularity made them a cause for concern. The going method for visiting carpers coming down west was to bring sacks of the damn things and to chuck them into the lake without any thought being given to correct preparation or the consequences of peanuts becoming the only food source available. On the lake in question, College Reservoir, the visitors were putting them in by the sack full and as a result, the lake lost several carp to various forms of peanut related disease and the majority lost condition and weight.
 
a lot of fish on the lake became ill

In 1985 a lot of fish on the lake became ill thanks to too many peanuts going in. This fish is clearly suffering from a serious gastric infection, most likely caused by eating too many peanuts.
 
This fish caught in 1984 at 20lb+

This fish caught in 1984 at 20lb+ was another victim. It was a fairly regular visitor to the bank and was gradually gaining weight and in early 1985 before the hordes arrived had made it to a respectable 25lb 10oz on a diet of naturals plus good food baits which most of the local anglers were using at the time.
 
By the end of 1985 the majority of the carp had lost weight

By the end of 1985 the majority of the carp had lost weight. This is the same fish seen above but greatly down in weight. Here it weighed just 15lb. As far as I know this was its last capture and it was later found dead in December 1985.

These three photos show what can happen at the extreme end of the scale: hundreds of kilos of peanuts being tipped into the lake were bound to cause problems, but a more enlightened carp world now knows that peanuts, when used in moderation can be a fantastic bait.
 
Haith's Peanuts

One final point I would like to make before I start: Back in the day the major cause for concern was the fact that peanuts can be infected with a fungus, which produces a carcinogen called aflatoxin. Since there is no clear scientific evidence of what is a safe level for wild birds, Haith's buy only 'nil detectable aflatoxin' - the safest standard there is. Haith's were founder members of the Birdcare Standards Association - a trade body that was set up in 2000 and was committed to feeding safe peanut kernels to Britain's birds. Although the association doesn't seem to be active these days, Haith's still commit to only buying 'nil detectable' nuts - which is why I use Haith's peanuts.

These days there is plenty of information on the Internet giving guidelines on how to prepare peanuts safely and I have not read or heard of any recent problems. There is a Blog along those lines here;

http://www.haiths.com/haiths-baits/preparing-peanuts-for-fishing-bait-/
 
place a kilo or two of Haith's Premium Peanuts in a saucepan and start to pour on the Coke

So let's move on to an alternative way of preparing peanuts, a method that owes much to the guy who first published a similar method for preparing tiger nuts. (Having used Coke Tigers for several years, you have my undying gratitude for publishing your little trick and I hope you don't mind some minor plagiarism as I describe how to prepare peanuts in Coca-Cola.)

You will need a bottle of the 'real thing', that is to say, full-on Coca-Cola. The diet stuff simply won't work. You can also use Red Bull or any energy drink as long as it is not a non-diet version, plus some sugar; I prefer to use castor sugar.
 
pour on the coke

First, place a kilo or two of Haith's Premium Peanuts in a saucepan and start to pour on the Coke.
 
leave the nuts to soak in the neat Coca-Cola for three to four days

Continue to add the Coke until the nuts are well covered by about 3cm. Now leave the nuts to soak in the neat Coca-Cola for three to four days while the while the peanuts absorb the liquid fully. You will notice that they will have swollen considerably and even at this stage they taste amazing!
 
drain off the Coke and put it to one side

After a good long soak drain off the Coke and put it to one side.
 
pour boiling water into the pan

Return the soaked peanuts to the pan and having boiled a kettle of water, pour this onto the nuts so they are again covered by at least 3cm of boiling water.
 
Turn down the heat and then simmer the bait for 30 minutes

Turn down the heat and then simmer the bait for 30 minutes.
 
gently bring the discarded Coke up to a gentle simmer

Meanwhile in a separate pan gently bring the discarded Coke up to a gentle simmer.
 
strain the nuts into a colander.

Now again strain the nuts into a colander.
 
put them back into a bucket or similar receptacle that has a seal-able lid

Then put them back into a bucket or similar receptacle that has a seal-able lid.
 
Now pour on the simmering Coke

Now pour on the simmering Coke…
 
add 250g of castor sugar

…and add 250g of castor sugar…
 
add two heaped tablespoons full of Black Treacle

…and two heaped tablespoons full of Black Treacle.
 
Put on the lid and shake the bucket well

Put on the lid and shake the bucket well to dissolve the sugar and the treacle in the near-boiling Coke.
 
The nuts will look like this

After a further three days remove the lid and drain off about half of the liquid. The nuts will look like this and you should notice a sticky residue on the inside of the bucket and this should also be evident on the baiting spoon.
 
Replace the lid and leave for a further three days shaking the bucket every day. The peanuts will then be ready to use

Replace the lid and leave for a further three days shaking the bucket every day. The peanuts will then be ready to use and they should smell slightly and 'off' but not sour. They will also be quite soft and will taste amazing; sweet and oozing with sticky attraction. I like to freeze the bait at this stage, as this process seems to add still further to the overall attraction.
 
It's simply just unfair! How can they resist

It's simply just unfair! How can they resist?
 
This one couldn't!

This one couldn't!
 
Stoned Nuts Rule!

Stoned Nuts Rule!
 
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"Coke Nuts" by
21 Sep 2018

Hi all, my brother and myself are currently setting a campaign approach on a lightly fished 40 acre lake with some very large uncaught carp, we are using Haith's peanuts and tigers coke style.
Question: has anyone used the goo that is available for a hook bait enhancer, it seems such an attractive flavour, got to be a winner?

Haith's customer services:

Hi Dave,
I am not a fan of the Goo. It contains an artificial dye that is 100% chemical and so it does not figure in my bait in any way, shape or form. Prepared as described in the Blog, peanuts will ooze attraction so there is no need to add anything at all!
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Ken

"Acide N Butyrique" by
15 Nov 2016

Hi after you have put the sugar can you put a few flavours ? Like Acide n butyrique ? And how many ml? Thank you. (Sorry for my English I'm french ! )

Haith's customer services:

Hi Sebastian, I would not add any flavours as these might actually make the bait less effective, not more! I definitely would not add Butyric as this too will counteract the attraction given off by the bacterial action coming off the peanuts. I hope this helps

"Tiger Nuts" by
06 Oct 2016

Hi is tiger nuts a all year round bait, even in the coldest periods. Many thanks Peter

"Stoned Nuts Rules, Ok! Yes !" by
24 Aug 2016

Hi Ken, nice article you wrote on nuts. Peanuts are one of my fav. particles. Going to have weeks session in November and I will try the recipe. (must remember I must start preparing more than a week in advance).
I've 2 questions for you :
1) do you think nuts are an all season bait ?
2) you write that after the preparation the nuts are quite soft. Is that not a problem for casting out, what kind of rig you use for these preparded nuts ?
regards Ben (The Hague, Holland)

Haith's customer services:


1. Nuts are definitely an all season bait.
2. While they go ‘soft’ after preparation, they are no so soft that they will not withstand a good cast.
3 The rig I use is shown here. See final photo:

http://www.haiths.com/haiths-baits/preparing-peanuts-for-fishing-bait-/

Cheers

Ken.

" Comment" by
23 Aug 2016

Wow,Just checked my emails,and saw this from KEN TOWNLEY,What a loverly surprise,He is up there with Jim Gibbenson/Rod Hutchinson etc,Please send me more from him ,thankyou.Mick

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